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Featuring Demian Dressler, DVM and Sue Ettinger, DVM, Dip. ACVIM (Oncology), authors of The Dog Cancer Survival Guide

Waiting and watching — but for how long?

Updated: September 26th, 2018

Have you been told to “just watch” a lump or mass on your dog by a veterinarian? I wouldn’t be surprised if you have. I too have advised that to my pet Guardians.  But how long is ok? What size is too big?  Are there actual guidelines?

In my veterinary training, I was taught that if a mass is not growing or changing in appearance, it is likely ok to do nothing and leave it – “just continue to monitor.” It’s been ten plus years since I started my medical oncology residency, and from my experience treating dogs and cats with cancer, that is not always the best advice.

While many skin masses are benign, some of these masses may also be slow-growing malignant tumors and it is better to remove them early, when it is more likely that the tumor can be completely removed with wide margins with the FIRST surgery.  I feel we are waiting too long, for too many masses.

This week I saw two cases that really depressed and frustrated me. Both were cats. I know this is a blog about dog cancer, but these cases illustrate exactly why it can be problematic to wait too long to take action – no matter what species we’re talking about.

Earlier in the week, I met Tiger, a big 16 year old cat with a recurrent tumor on his lower jaw, up front by the incisors.  It was first removed exactly a year ago. And now, it was back, and 3 cm wide. Think about how big a cat’s head is, and you’ll see that is a big tumor.

The tumor was a low grade fibrosarcoma, which, as in in dogs, is a malignant connective tissue cancer with tentacle-like projections that extend out from the visible tumor. It is these tentacles that make recurrence after surgery common if the surgery does not also remove a large amount of tissue around the tumor. We need a wide, clean “margin” of tissue. How big a margin? That’s what can be tricky to figure out by “just monitoring” it.

This week, as I visually inspected Tiger’s mouth with our surgeon at our practice, I was cautiously optimistic that surgery was an option. But just looking at a tumor doesnt tell the whole story, so, to be sure, we did a CT scan. Unfortunately, based on the CT scan, the tumor and its tentacles extended too far back. Surgery was no longer an option, as there was no way to get wide enough margins, and (most importantly) leave a functional mouth so the kitty could eat once he recovered. The surgery last year did not get wide enough margins. We didn’t want to do another resection (surgery), because we would end up with a minimal margin, and that would lead to another recurrence.

The second kitty I saw this week was Tulip. She also had a low grade sarcoma, a peripheral nerve sheath tumor, on the right side of muzzle. Tulip’s Guardian first visited her vet five months ago, after she noticed a small mass on the side of her face. Her vet prescribed steroids and antibiotics, which did not help for long. A month later, the mass was biopsied. At that point, the mass was still small, about 1cm, and likely still a good candidate for surgical removal.  Unfortunately, I did not see the case until this week, four months after that biopsy. At this point, the mass is greater than 3 cm.

The point I’m making here is that for both of these cases, the cancers might have (essentially) been cured if they had been treated with more assertive methods early, while they were still small tumors. Tiger’s first surgery should have had much wider margins, to reduce the risk of recurrence. Tulip should have had a big surgery with wide margins on that small, 1 cm tumor, rather than taking a wait-and-see approach.

Big surgeries, early, on small tumors, can be really helpful for these sarcomas. As in dogs, the metastasis rate is low for sarcomas, and chemotherapy is typically not recommended once the surgery removes the tumor.

Instead, I had to deliver the frustrating news that we are now beyond surgery as an option, in both cases. We now have palliative radiation, palliative pain medications, and anti-inflammatories. Palliative techniques are not designed to remove the cancer, remember. They are meant to help the dog, or in this case, cat, feel better while the cancer continues to do what cancer does.

Understandably, both guardians wept when I explained the situation. My heart was heavy, as I outlined the lack of good therapeutic options to rid these cats of their once-treatable cancers.

Dr. Dressler and I write in our book that there’s always something you can do to help your dog with cancer – and there is. You can always improve quality of life, change the diet, start supplements, and, of course, take advantage of palliative and therapeutic treatments.

But please – if you’ve landed on this page because your dog (or cat, in honor of Tulip and Tiger) has a lump or a bump, and you have been told to wait and watch it … rethink that.

In my next post, I’ll give you some guidelines for how to handle a “wait and see” situation.

Best,

Dr. Sue

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  1. TERRY WOODS on November 19, 2012 at 9:41 am

    I understand the need for immediate action with fibrosarcomas but WHAT do you DO when there are MULTIPLE sites and they are removed and then 5 months later you have DIFFERENT multiple sites and they are removed and then 5 months later….on and on. Dog is sliced and diced every 5 months. Fibrosarcoma NEVER occurs on the same site. NEVER…..Dog is 6. Vets are now refusing to slice him up and take margins again as there are now 6 to 7 sites. Metronomic chemo was not tolerated…where do we go for help???? Cannot even find evidence that this happens in young 6 year old dogs. Nothing on internet

    • Dr. Susan Ettinger on November 24, 2012 at 5:54 pm

      Terry,
      This sounds like a very unusual case. I am sorry to hear about all the surgeries and bad reaction to chemo. For atypical cases, you are unlikely to find info on the internet. I would recommend a second opinion with an oncologist. If you dog is making new FSA, I recommend chemotherapy. Sometimes chemo can be tolerated with different drugs or dosages.
      All my best, Dr Sue

  2. Billie Sue White on November 17, 2012 at 9:11 pm

    This article really hit home with me. It brought back the tragedy that I am stilll trying to cope with every single day. Han, my big, black, handsome Newfoundland/Lab mix had a tiny dermal mass resmbling a wart suddenly appear on his right abdominal wall. I took him to an oncologist, who aspirated it as benign and advised me to just “watch” it. Several months later I took him back because the mass was getting larger; it had almost doubled in size. The oncologist again aspirated it as benign but refused to remove it, saying it was not necessary. Again she said to just “watch” it. Four months later I took Han to the same veterinary oncologist to have this growing mass re-checked. It had increased in size from 4mm x 6mm to 10mm x 12mm in less a year. I again asked the oncologist to remove the mass; again, she refused. I then asked her to at least aspirate it. She refused, saying there was no need since it was benign the previous two times she aspirated. For the third time she advised me to just “watch” it.

    Sadly and tragically I blindly, unknowingly, and naively trusted and followed this veterinary oncologist’s judgment and advice. Several months later this same dermal mass was diagnosed by a different veterinarian as an advanced grade three mast cell tumor. Eight months later (after surgery, chemotherapy, and radiation treatment), my dearest, precious Han, who was not yet eight years old, passed away. There are no words to express the pain, sorrow, and guilt I feel every day. I hope others will benefit from our tragic experience.

    • Dr. Susan Ettinger on November 24, 2012 at 5:45 pm

      Billie Sue,
      I am so sorry about Han. Thanks for sharing your story – I know it is not easy.
      With sympathy, Dr Sue

  3. Lindsay McFadden on November 16, 2012 at 10:36 am

    Our 4 year old golden, Tralee, has already had one surgery for a type of melanoma on her paw last spring. The surgeon removed two digits and obtained clean margins. At the suggestion of our vet and the surgeon, he also removed one lymph node which was found not to have been attacked by this horrible, horrible disease. Although our oncologist gave us news about a new vaccine, we were hopeful that we were in an okay place with the situation, clear margins and lymph node, and opted not to have her administer the very expensive, series of shots.
    In October, I found 2 small lumps ascending up her leg and immediately called our vet and took her in. The vet measured and aspirated both lumps. We waited through the weekend and found out the dreaded results the following Tuesday. The lab report suggested that it was different, slower growing tumor that would not spread. For some reason, the lab that analyzed the liquid removed, like to give it a name. In Tralee’s case, it would not have made a difference but I believe that a bioposy is the only true test.
    I made an appointment with the surgeon to see Tralee a day later. All the pain we experienced just 6 short months ago, came flooding back as we drove up to the hospital for our appointment. The surgeon performed a thorough examination of both her legs, finding additional lumps going up her affected leg. We had 3 views of chest x-rays done and found no dark areas.
    I realized, that as we talked through our options for potential treatment, this was more than likely the same type of cancer as originally removed. The surgeon advised me that if we did try to go ahead with more surgery, he would end up with dirty margins this time. Even with the surgery and going ahead with the series of shots, treatment might buy her 12 months.
    We have Tralee at home with us and, for now, she is doing well. She is very active and happy and knows nothing about her health.
    As soon as the cancer was diagnosed in March, I read as much as I could on melanoma in dogs. I found Dr. Dresslers book and this blog and am thankful for the information provided in both. We switched her dog food to a grain free option from HALO. We have done radon tests in our home and are waiting for the results. We do not and have not applied pesticides on our grass area. We already have our water tested annually and will continue to do so by several different companies in an effort to find out what carcinogen may lie lurking somewhere in our immediate environment. When I started researching, I was shocked at the amount and different cancer types that may exist in our beloved 4 legged friends.
    I am so sorry for any of you going through this agony. I love my girl and kiss and hug her every chance I get. If I wake in the night, I always give her a pat to let her know I am there for her. We purchased a St. Francis medal for her and pray to him for strength.

    • Dr. Susan Ettinger on November 24, 2012 at 5:43 pm

      Lindsay,
      I am sorry to hear about Tralee. Thanks for reading and sharing. And good luck to Tralee.
      All my best, Dr Sue

  4. Natalie on November 16, 2012 at 2:10 am

    My vet told me to wait and see – I didn’t I got an enlarged lymph node biopsied on my golden and was all clear – 3 weeks later my baby collapsed and we spent a rolled coaster ride of it could be this or that – then an X-ray showed an extremely large heart and then to confirm a suggested diagnosis I fared to see a specialist. Cardiologist and echocardiogram – to our dismay my poor baby had a a Tumor in his heart and finally a diagnosis of hemangiosarcoma was made- sadly due to the position of this nasty nasty Tumor my baby let md know it was time for him to go play at the bridge with his fur cousins – since this event I have spent many hours researching and have discovered the earliest sign would have been a liitle pimple like cyst on is back that I was told by the vet was a common sebaceous cyst that sometimes in older dogs burst ! Lesson learned – evey lump bump scratch deserves to be investigated – I know had it been biopsied and a diagnosis made earlier it would not have changed the outcome as this is such a horrible cancer- but I would have known in advance and maybe the pain and guilt I feel now after the diagnosis would be less – seriously guys if your gut tells you it’s not right – do t just sit on it – our babies are way too precious not too 🙁 I was blessed with my boy for 12 wonderful years and for that I am thankfully / but still it hurts like hell !

  5. darci finley on November 15, 2012 at 9:58 pm

    try vet immune tabs and consult a hollistic vet! and change your pets diet thats so important…if processed food is bad for us its bad for them!

  6. Lauren on November 15, 2012 at 2:18 pm

    Thx for the great advice. I’ve never been comfortable with “watch and see” — dor what? Get it out asap to be safe.

    Thx!

  7. Joanne Riddle on November 15, 2012 at 1:12 pm

    I was told to watch a small lump in my dog’s neck. 4 weeks later this small marble size lump is a tennis ball….and 13 weeks later my dog whom I was told was not facing anything life threatening died from hemangeosarcoma. If I could turn back the clock to the day that I found the small lump, I would insist on an immediate biopsy. My vet failed me…she failed my dog. NEVER will I WAIT again.

    • Dr. Susan Ettinger on November 24, 2012 at 5:37 pm

      Joanne,
      I am truly so sorry about your dog. I hope together we can help other dogs get aspirates and biopsies done sooner, but it does not help your dog. I am so sorry about your loss.
      With sympathy, Dr Sue

  8. Ms. Charlie W. on November 15, 2012 at 12:46 pm

    Dr. Sue, I was researching the type of cancer my precious dog, Dude, was diagnosed with, the soft tissue Fibrosarcomas oral cancer on the inside upper jaw. The suggested treatment is doxorubicin chemo 1 tx so far with piroxicam then Palliative radiation therapy (six treatments- he is on his 3rd tx) then return to doxorubicin.

    Eight days after the chemo (also started piroxicam at least a week before the chemo) Dude got very very ill with severe diarrhea and extreme lethargy and just wanted to lay as far away from the house in the back yard as possible. I had to carry him into the house. He was given medicine for diarrhea but the oncologists wasn’t sure why he got so sick 8 days after chemo. They didn’t believe it was the chemo and thought it might be the piroxicam. My fear is whatever it was seemed like it nearly killed him so I’m hesitant to return to the chemo or piroxicam.

    What has been your experience with the above treatment and side effect?

    I was reading a book “Cancer and your pet” by Debra Eldredge and Margaret Bonham and they reported some positive outcomes combining chemo with NSAIS’s and were there was excitment about great outcomes with bladder cancer and a development about a new and relatively safe treatment for dogs and tried on canine oral cancers that can’t be operated on.

    This book was dated 2005 is there more current research on this? What are more current outcomes? Also Can’t my dogs tumor be removed with surgery even if it means removing the upper jaw bone? Or leaving a dirty margine and blast it with radiation? Nobody seems to think so.

    Dude is 12 years old and show no signs of illness, he is my best friend ever and he just loves me and I him, he is the best dog ever, so I want to leave no stone unturned in finding the best possible chance of him beating this cancer!

    Your feedback would be invaluable.

    Ms. Charlie W.

  9. Therese on November 15, 2012 at 10:32 am

    I watched a pinky-finger-tip-sized flat, raised area (that apparently only I could feel) for 6 months at our vet’s direction. We treated it as if it were an insect bite or perhaps a puncture from running into something in the yard.

    The bump was on our dog’s skull, slightly to one side of the midline of the upper sinus. Since it was painful when pressed lightly, I finally insisted that we biopsy and our vet admitted that this was out of his league. Sigh. A specialist confirmed this was a squamous cell carcinoma that had originated in the upper sinus and had now come through the top of the skull. Worst day ever (to that point).

    What followed was a whirlwind of surgery, radiation and finally chemo. A fight we lost after 5 months. The bills were enormous because we had no pet insurance.

    Looking back and taking her entire medical history into consideration, there were signs that this was likely cancer perhaps as much as a year before diagnosis. Of course hindsight is 20/20, but I wish our vet had been a bit more aggressive about getting to the bottom of this medical issue. As an owner, I will be more aggressive in the future about lumps and bumps. I would rather spend the money to rule out, than have one of our dogs go through this again.

    • Dr. Susan Ettinger on November 24, 2012 at 5:32 pm

      Therese,
      I am sorry to hear about your dog. Know that you did all you could for your dog. Again, so sorry for your loss.
      With Sympathy, Dr Sue

  10. Donna on November 15, 2012 at 9:41 am

    This is very depressing as my, very special, shephard mix has several growths on his body and one has grown from egg size to palm size in about 3 years. This while we watch – now I dread to see what this could be. He has another on his side by his ribs – a fairly large one by his back knee – that got larger after he had knee surgery – even though I talked to the vet about the relatively small lump I felt behind the knee at that time. It wasn’t anything to worry about-its probably 6inches behind his knee now. But he walks okay. I feel sick. Sometimes I get the feeling, that even with the Vet/Dr. – they are just dogs. They are our so much more than “just dogs”.

    • Dr. Susan Ettinger on November 24, 2012 at 5:30 pm

      Donna,
      I hope you are able to get the masses aspirated and get some answers and options.
      Thanks for reading and sharing. All my best, Dr Sue

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