Comments on: Neoplasene as a Dog Cancer Treatment http://www.dogcancerblog.com/neoplasene-as-a-dog-cancer-treatment/ Dr. Demian Dressler, DVM, the dog cancer vet blogs about canine cancer Tue, 07 Sep 2010 19:46:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: DemianDressler http://www.dogcancerblog.com/neoplasene-as-a-dog-cancer-treatment/comment-page-1/#comment-3174 DemianDressler Fri, 27 Aug 2010 00:40:26 +0000 http://www.dogcancerblog.com/?p=550#comment-3174 Dear Celia, it is critical to get a diagnosis first before contemplating any treatment for cancer. If your dog has something stuck in her nasal sinus, we could be missing the boat completely, or a fungal or bacterial infection. As to the question of "good option", it depends what you mean by that. For a cure? No. You would be well served I believe, if this does turn out to be a cancer, to get some information about how to go about making treatment decisions, defining what your priorities are, learning what the survival statistics actually mean, and what all of the different options are with respect to treating cancer, which are many more than oral Neoplasene, although we still in medicine do not have a cure for non-removable dog cancers. For cancer, I would certainly consider the dog cancer diet, apocaps, ongoing doxycyline, immune stimulants (beta glucans), finding out whether local depos of matrix 3 cisplatin impregnated beads could be used to help control the growth of cancer (if it is found), and even contemplation of radiation therapy. But you first need to decide what your priorities are, what the statistics are, and how you are going to budget your dog's care if cancer is on the table. I hope this helps...getting the data is step one...you could also find out if your vet is willing to do a sinus flush to try to get some cells out if cheaper than biopsy.. Best D Dear Celia,
it is critical to get a diagnosis first before contemplating any treatment for cancer. If your dog has something stuck in her nasal sinus, we could be missing the boat completely, or a fungal or bacterial infection.
As to the question of “good option”, it depends what you mean by that. For a cure? No. You would be well served I believe, if this does turn out to be a cancer, to get some information about how to go about making treatment decisions, defining what your priorities are, learning what the survival statistics actually mean, and what all of the different options are with respect to treating cancer, which are many more than oral Neoplasene, although we still in medicine do not have a cure for non-removable dog cancers. For cancer, I would certainly consider the dog cancer diet, apocaps, ongoing doxycyline, immune stimulants (beta glucans), finding out whether local depos of matrix 3 cisplatin impregnated beads could be used to help control the growth of cancer (if it is found), and even contemplation of radiation therapy. But you first need to decide what your priorities are, what the statistics are, and how you are going to budget your dog’s care if cancer is on the table.
I hope this helps…getting the data is step one…you could also find out if your vet is willing to do a sinus flush to try to get some cells out if cheaper than biopsy..
Best
D

]]> By: Celia Reich http://www.dogcancerblog.com/neoplasene-as-a-dog-cancer-treatment/comment-page-1/#comment-3165 Celia Reich Mon, 23 Aug 2010 11:55:24 +0000 http://www.dogcancerblog.com/?p=550#comment-3165 Our dog Hannah has had episodes of severe nosebleeds in the past two years. We have been trying to manage her condition with epinephrine. She forms a clot and sneezes and dislodges the clot and the bleeding resumes. After administering the epinephrine, we keep her calm in her crate for a couple of days and she usually has a month or so before another episode. Vet would like to do a rhinoscopy to collect a sample of nasal cavity tissue to determine if she has a tumor or if she has a fungal infection. This is quite a costly procedure. If she has a tumor, we are told it is quite difficult to do surgery in the nasal cavity and to treat with radiation. Is Neoplasene a good option for nasal cancer? Our dog Hannah has had episodes of severe nosebleeds in the past two years. We have been trying to manage her condition with epinephrine. She forms a clot and sneezes and dislodges the clot and the bleeding resumes. After administering the epinephrine, we keep her calm in her crate for a couple of days and she usually has a month or so before another episode. Vet would like to do a rhinoscopy to collect a sample of nasal cavity tissue to determine if she has a tumor or if she has a fungal infection. This is quite a costly procedure. If she has a tumor, we are told it is quite difficult to do surgery in the nasal cavity and to treat with radiation. Is Neoplasene a good option for nasal cancer?

]]> By: cindy http://www.dogcancerblog.com/neoplasene-as-a-dog-cancer-treatment/comment-page-1/#comment-3121 cindy Sat, 07 Aug 2010 17:49:45 +0000 http://www.dogcancerblog.com/?p=550#comment-3121 Our 8 year old lab/shepherd mix is on Neoplasene for osteosarcoma. She has been on for 11 days and her tumor size has more than doubled as well as a great deal of swelling below the tumor. I know Neoplasene causes inflammation which is why no NSAIDS but how long before we can expect to see the inflammation begin decreasing? Our 8 year old lab/shepherd mix is on Neoplasene for osteosarcoma. She has been on for 11 days and her tumor size has more than doubled as well as a great deal of swelling below the tumor. I know Neoplasene causes inflammation which is why no NSAIDS but how long before we can expect to see the inflammation begin decreasing?

]]> By: More ideas for down the road | Jazzy's Journey http://www.dogcancerblog.com/neoplasene-as-a-dog-cancer-treatment/comment-page-1/#comment-3109 More ideas for down the road | Jazzy's Journey Sun, 01 Aug 2010 02:55:15 +0000 http://www.dogcancerblog.com/?p=550#comment-3109 [...] may benefit from it as well. I was just reading some great stuff about neoplasene on this page:http://www.dogcancerblog.com/neoplasene-as-a-dog-cancer-treatment/. Then in one of the comments someone mentioned some interesting alternative cancer therapies called [...] [...] may benefit from it as well. I was just reading some great stuff about neoplasene on this page:http://www.dogcancerblog.com/neoplasene-as-a-dog-cancer-treatment/. Then in one of the comments someone mentioned some interesting alternative cancer therapies called [...]

]]> By: Donna Walker http://www.dogcancerblog.com/neoplasene-as-a-dog-cancer-treatment/comment-page-1/#comment-3023 Donna Walker Sun, 04 Jul 2010 04:27:28 +0000 http://www.dogcancerblog.com/?p=550#comment-3023 Dr.Dressler, Our 5 1/2 year old female (spayed)Golden Retriever Josie was diagnosed with grade 3 mast cell cancer. She has had two surgeries. One tumor was excised from right inguinal fold and metastatic inguinal lymph node. Abdominal ultrasound reveals multiple enlarged (approximately 3x4 cm and 2x3 cm) lymph nodes in the cell lumbar region along with a generalized hypoechoic appearance to the liver. The spleen is of normal size and echogenicity. Thoracic radiographs are unremarkable. This info was from a report from the Oncologist who examined Josie on June 26. The evening of July 2nd I noticed Josies lower belly area, right side swelled up and the skin is a dark red color. July 3rd, A.M. we think she has another growth(tumor). July 1st we met with a Holistic vet and she suggested that we research neoplasene. Josie is on the raw diet from your book and she is currently getting supplements along with Transfer Factor Plus.I just learned of another product from 4life called Canine Immune Tabs. Are you familiar with this? Also,Josie still has a great appetite and two of her three surgical sites have healed and she is full of energy(I worry about the one that has not healed) . Is Josie a good candidate for Neoplasene? I am willing and able to care for Josie 24/7. Please advise. I have clinical reports if you want to see them from June 26th. Thank You for your time Donna Walker Dr.Dressler, Our 5 1/2 year old female (spayed)Golden Retriever Josie was diagnosed with grade 3 mast cell cancer. She has had two surgeries. One tumor was excised from right inguinal fold and metastatic inguinal lymph node. Abdominal ultrasound reveals multiple enlarged (approximately 3×4 cm and 2×3 cm) lymph nodes in the cell lumbar region along with a generalized hypoechoic appearance to the liver. The spleen is of normal size and echogenicity. Thoracic radiographs are unremarkable. This info was from a report from the Oncologist who examined Josie on June 26. The evening of July 2nd I noticed Josies lower belly area, right side swelled up and the skin is a dark red color. July 3rd, A.M. we think she has another growth(tumor). July 1st we met with a Holistic vet and she suggested that we research neoplasene. Josie is on the raw diet from your book and she is currently getting supplements along with Transfer Factor Plus.I just learned of another product from 4life called Canine Immune Tabs. Are you familiar with this? Also,Josie still has a great appetite and two of her three surgical sites have healed and she is full of energy(I worry about the one that has not healed) . Is Josie a good candidate for Neoplasene? I am willing and able to care for Josie 24/7. Please advise. I have clinical reports if you want to see them from June 26th. Thank You for your time Donna Walker

]]> By: Scott Harper http://www.dogcancerblog.com/neoplasene-as-a-dog-cancer-treatment/comment-page-1/#comment-3016 Scott Harper Fri, 02 Jul 2010 00:05:19 +0000 http://www.dogcancerblog.com/?p=550#comment-3016 Well, my dog started having minor nosebleeds once every day or two about 3 weeks ago, and my dad, who is a ENT actually took a sample of a small mass up in her nose just today. We sent the mass to our vet, who scheduled a surgery and will look at the biopsy results to see what treatments to use for her. Once I found out what was up with her, I went on the internet to look things up and found out about the drug Neoplasene. She is 11, but is in good shape, and other than the recent start of nosebleeds she hasnt changed at all. Im just hoping our vet or some vet near us can give us some info on this drug. Well, my dog started having minor nosebleeds once every day or two about 3 weeks ago, and my dad, who is a ENT actually took a sample of a small mass up in her nose just today. We sent the mass to our vet, who scheduled a surgery and will look at the biopsy results to see what treatments to use for her. Once I found out what was up with her, I went on the internet to look things up and found out about the drug Neoplasene. She is 11, but is in good shape, and other than the recent start of nosebleeds she hasnt changed at all. Im just hoping our vet or some vet near us can give us some info on this drug.

]]> By: Sue Little http://www.dogcancerblog.com/neoplasene-as-a-dog-cancer-treatment/comment-page-1/#comment-2580 Sue Little Wed, 17 Mar 2010 05:32:09 +0000 http://www.dogcancerblog.com/?p=550#comment-2580 For those interested in treatment with neoplasene, there is a good group on yahoo. Many of the pet owners there have prior experience using neoplasene and it is a good group for support and asking questions. It is Neoplasene_for-Cancer@yahoogroups.com. By far the most problematic is using the neoplasene orally. It is an emetic meaning it makes the dog nauseous and many times the animal will eventually refuse to eat. Many owners put the neo in cream cheese or butter. Things like that. A lot of people have had to stop with the neo and resort to other remedies such as Avemar and artemsinin. I would strongly suggest finding a vet with experience using neo. However, many owners convince their vets to order the neo for them sort of as a last resort, and often with a considerable amount of reluctance on the veterinarians part. Then when they encounter problems, the animal's owner is sort of out there by themself. These are all lay people and NOT veterinarians but it is a good group and it does help to have people that have been through this before. Neoplasene, when it works, can seem truly miraculous. Just remember, there are also treatment failures. And Dr. Dressler is right. It is not for the faint of heart and can require a lot of committment, time, and stamina on the part of the owner. Hope this helps and I wish all of you and your babies the best. For those interested in treatment with neoplasene, there is a good group on yahoo. Many of the pet owners there have prior experience using neoplasene and it is a good group for support and asking questions. It is Neoplasene_for-Cancer@yahoogroups.com.

By far the most problematic is using the neoplasene orally. It is an emetic meaning it makes the dog nauseous and many times the animal will eventually refuse to eat. Many owners put the neo in cream cheese or butter. Things like that. A lot of people have had to stop with the neo and resort to other remedies such as Avemar and artemsinin.

I would strongly suggest finding a vet with experience using neo. However, many owners convince their vets to order the neo for them sort of as a last resort, and often with a considerable amount of reluctance on the veterinarians part. Then when they encounter problems, the animal’s owner is sort of out there by themself.

These are all lay people and NOT veterinarians but it is a good group and it does help to have people that have been through this before.

Neoplasene, when it works, can seem truly miraculous. Just remember, there are also treatment failures. And Dr. Dressler is right. It is not for the faint of heart and can require a lot of committment, time, and stamina on the part of the owner.

Hope this helps and I wish all of you and your babies the best.

]]> By: Jeannie Schmidt http://www.dogcancerblog.com/neoplasene-as-a-dog-cancer-treatment/comment-page-1/#comment-2543 Jeannie Schmidt Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:37:06 +0000 http://www.dogcancerblog.com/?p=550#comment-2543 Dear Dr D, My 4 yr old Neopolitan/English Mastiff cross, Napoleon, started oozing bloody mucus from his right nostril a little over a month ago so I took him in and had him scoped. The vet said that there was too much blood and mucus even after several flushings to be able to see what was going on up there.(if it was a tumor or foreign body). He also did an xray of a broken tooth to see if it had abscessed but it wasn't. He started him on antibiotics and had taken a sample for a slide but I wasn't able to afford to send it to the lab at that time. About 2 weeks after he finished the antibiotics, Napoleon had a SEVERE nosebleed.He sneezed out a tumor about the size of a large blueberry or cranberry and a bunch of huge clots. Every vet I talked to told me to ice pack it because that is all they would be able to do to it. Nappy, of course, wouldn't let me do that and as he weighs 177.6 lbs I couldn't force him to let me. After 5 hrs of non-stop steady bleeding ( I was terrified he was going to bleed out) I finally found a vet close by that agreed to sedate him and give him some epinephrine to stop the bleeding. He gave me ace pills and more epinephrine to take home to control the bleeding. I had taken the tumor with me for him to look at but he refused to look at it because it had been in the freezer and he said that had ruined it. Well I had hoped that the tumor he sneezed out was what had caused it all and prayed that he would heal up now. Well 3 1/2 weeks later he had another bad nosebeed and sneezed out another larger tumor with crystal rock like clusters on it and lots and lots of clots again. This has me pretty much convinced it is cancer. I had this tumor sent to the lab and should have the results this friday. I had taken pictures of the first nosebleed into the vet and he said he had never seen any animal have a nosebleed as severe as Nappy's was. The enclosed porch where I kept him when he had it looks like a body had been dismembered there. The walls and floors were completely covered in blood. I had to keep bringing him old comforters so he had a dry place to lay down and he completely saturated 5 of them.The vet said he didn't think after seeing the pictures that there would be any treatment that could help him at this point. Nappy seems to be in perfect health most days, really playful,eating normally but most nights he has a very hard time breathing and has to inhale through his mouth. He will sometimes start a really loud, deep, wet, rattling snore and when he wakes up after that he gags and retches alot. I have been giving him shortening mixed with honey and a vitamin supplement to soothe his throat when this happens. I know this scares him because although he has always been my shadow he now doesn't want me out of his sight. He has become a lap dog whenever possible. I am desperate to find a way to help him and feel so helpless as he and I sit up all night and I listen to him struggle for air. I am currently unemployed due to lay-offs and because the extra costs Nappy's size incurs for all procedures I can't afford more scopings, surgery, chemo and radiation even if it would be a possible course of treatment.I am praying that the Neoplasene could help him. I don't want him to suffer or put him through painful treatments that will just prolong his misery. I haven't been able to find a vet locally or in the surrounding areas that has had experience with the sudden onset of such severe nosebleeds and they are stunned by the size of tumors he has sneezed out. I would be extremely grateful if you would allow me to email you the pics of the nosebleed and of the tumors he sneezed out and get your opinion. If you think there is a chance that the Neoplasene or if there is any other therapy/remedy/treatment you think could save my best friend. I don't know what to expect with this illness and at what point to say he's had enough. It's breaking my heart and I don't know what to do. Please, I need some advice and will anxiously await your reply. Sincerely, Jeannie Schmidt Dear Dr D,
My 4 yr old Neopolitan/English Mastiff cross, Napoleon, started oozing bloody mucus from his right nostril a little over a month ago so I took him in and had him scoped. The vet said that there was too much blood and mucus even after several flushings to be able to see what was going on up there.(if it was a tumor or foreign body). He also did an xray of a broken tooth to see if it had abscessed but it wasn’t. He started him on antibiotics and had taken a sample for a slide but I wasn’t able to afford to send it to the lab at that time. About 2 weeks after he finished the antibiotics, Napoleon had a SEVERE nosebleed.He sneezed out a tumor about the size of a large blueberry or cranberry and a bunch of huge clots. Every vet I talked to told me to ice pack it because that is all they would be able to do to it. Nappy, of course, wouldn’t let me do that and as he weighs 177.6 lbs I couldn’t force him to let me. After 5 hrs of non-stop steady bleeding ( I was terrified he was going to bleed out) I finally found a vet close by that agreed to sedate him and give him some epinephrine to stop the bleeding. He gave me ace pills and more epinephrine to take home to control the bleeding. I had taken the tumor with me for him to look at but he refused to look at it because it had been in the freezer and he said that had ruined it. Well I had hoped that the tumor he sneezed out was what had caused it all and prayed that he would heal up now. Well 3 1/2 weeks later he had another bad nosebeed and sneezed out another larger tumor with crystal rock like clusters on it and lots and lots of clots again. This has me pretty much convinced it is cancer. I had this tumor sent to the lab and should have the results this friday. I had taken pictures of the first nosebleed into the vet and he said he had never seen any animal have a nosebleed as severe as Nappy’s was. The enclosed porch where I kept him when he had it looks like a body had been dismembered there. The walls and floors were completely covered in blood. I had to keep bringing him old comforters so he had a dry place to lay down and he completely saturated 5 of them.The vet said he didn’t think after seeing the pictures that there would be any treatment that could help him at this point. Nappy seems to be in perfect health most days, really playful,eating normally but most nights he has a very hard time breathing and has to inhale through his mouth. He will sometimes start a really loud, deep, wet, rattling snore and when he wakes up after that he gags and retches alot. I have been giving him shortening mixed with honey and a vitamin supplement to soothe his throat when this happens. I know this scares him because although he has always been my shadow he now doesn’t want me out of his sight. He has become a lap dog whenever possible. I am desperate to find a way to help him and feel so helpless as he and I sit up all night and I listen to him struggle for air. I am currently unemployed due to lay-offs and because the extra costs Nappy’s size incurs for all procedures I can’t afford more scopings, surgery, chemo and radiation even if it would be a possible course of treatment.I am praying that the Neoplasene could help him. I don’t want him to suffer or put him through painful treatments that will just prolong his misery. I haven’t been able to find a vet locally or in the surrounding areas that has had experience with the sudden onset of such severe nosebleeds and they are stunned by the size of tumors he has sneezed out. I would be extremely grateful if you would allow me to email you the pics of the nosebleed and of the tumors he sneezed out and get your opinion. If you think there is a chance that the Neoplasene or if there is any other therapy/remedy/treatment you think could save my best friend. I don’t know what to expect with this illness and at what point to say he’s had enough. It’s breaking my heart and I don’t know what to do. Please, I need some advice and will anxiously await your reply.
Sincerely,
Jeannie Schmidt

]]> By: Dr. Dressler http://www.dogcancerblog.com/neoplasene-as-a-dog-cancer-treatment/comment-page-1/#comment-2536 Dr. Dressler Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:51:09 +0000 http://www.dogcancerblog.com/?p=550#comment-2536 Dear Renee, I think the vets are on the right track. Sadly, re-biopsy may be needed. You don't want to start treating for a cancer unless you know definitively that you have a cancer....sounds frustrating. Hang in there and best of luck, Dr D Dear Renee,
I think the vets are on the right track. Sadly, re-biopsy may be needed. You don’t want to start treating for a cancer unless you know definitively that you have a cancer….sounds frustrating. Hang in there and best of luck,
Dr D

]]> By: Renee Kendall http://www.dogcancerblog.com/neoplasene-as-a-dog-cancer-treatment/comment-page-1/#comment-2486 Renee Kendall Fri, 05 Mar 2010 03:47:03 +0000 http://www.dogcancerblog.com/?p=550#comment-2486 I am in the process of trying figure what my 10 yr. Old Golden Retriever has on her left back hock. It started out as a hard lump which developed visually within about 6 months. When I realized it had become the size of about a walnut I took her in to my vet and they did a test on the fluid. The result came up as having some suspicious cells and further testing needed to be done. I needed to wait about a 1-1/2 weeks to have a wedge biopsy done, but in the mean time the lump went wild. It spread to about a 2" by 3" inflamed lump that continually drained from several spots. I had the wedge biopsy done and that showed the lump to consist of scar tissue and infection. She doesn't limp at all, but her leg quivers when you go to touch the area, or she thinks your going to touch it. So started the antibiotics and anti-inflamatories. 3 months later and a second opinion vet, were still fighting this. We just did a bacteria test, that ruled out a bacterial problem. Now were doing a urine test for some other kind of possibility. The area just keeps on draining, so is my wallet. Personally I think its some type of Osteosarcama, especially after doing some research, thats when I came upon this site and Neoplasene. What do you think? Do you think that Neoplasene Salve could work for my Elsa. Please help. I am in the process of trying figure what my 10 yr. Old Golden Retriever has on her left back hock. It started out as a hard lump which developed visually within about 6 months. When I realized it had become the size of about a walnut I took her in to my vet and they did a test on the fluid. The result came up as having some suspicious cells and further testing needed to be done. I needed to wait about a 1-1/2 weeks to have a wedge biopsy done, but in the mean time the lump went wild. It spread to about a 2″ by 3″ inflamed lump that continually drained from several spots. I had the wedge biopsy done and that showed the lump to consist of scar tissue and infection. She doesn’t limp at all, but her leg quivers when you go to touch the area, or she thinks your going to touch it. So started the antibiotics and anti-inflamatories. 3 months later and a second opinion vet, were still fighting this. We just did a bacteria test, that ruled out a bacterial problem. Now were doing a urine test for some other kind of possibility. The area just keeps on draining, so is my wallet. Personally I think its some type of Osteosarcama, especially after doing some research, thats when I came upon this site and Neoplasene.
What do you think? Do you think that Neoplasene Salve could work for my Elsa. Please help.

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