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	<title>Comments on: Dog Cancer and Antioxidants&#8230;Time to Clear Up Confusion!</title>
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	<description>Dr. Demian Dressler, DVM, the dog cancer vet blogs about canine cancer</description>
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		<title>By: Dr. Dressler</title>
		<link>http://www.dogcancerblog.com/dog-cancer-and-antioxidantstime-to-clear-up-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-336</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Dressler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 02:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes.  Resveratrol is so cool except we don&#039;t know what the toxic agent is in cases of grape toxicity...I would be quite excited about it otherwise.
D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes.  Resveratrol is so cool except we don&#8217;t know what the toxic agent is in cases of grape toxicity&#8230;I would be quite excited about it otherwise.<br />
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		<title>By: Lilly F</title>
		<link>http://www.dogcancerblog.com/dog-cancer-and-antioxidantstime-to-clear-up-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-334</link>
		<dc:creator>Lilly F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 01:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Dressler,

So in light of what you say about using grapeseed extract cautiously.  Would you also use resveratrol the same way since it is also derived from grapes?

Lilly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Dressler,</p>
<p>So in light of what you say about using grapeseed extract cautiously.  Would you also use resveratrol the same way since it is also derived from grapes?</p>
<p>Lilly</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Dressler</title>
		<link>http://www.dogcancerblog.com/dog-cancer-and-antioxidantstime-to-clear-up-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-147</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Dressler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 01:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ellen,

I was trying to make the point that each antioxidant needed to be considered, and all its effects, in the context of a given dog within a specific treatment plan.  I was not actually trying to make a harm versus good statement...

Just a quick note on the grapeseed extract.  Yes, good stuff upon initial exam, but I cannot recommend them to everyone, as a precaution.  Do a Google search on grape and raisin toxicity in dogs and you will see why.  Since we don&#039;t know what the culprit is in the grape, and the rare death does occur, I have to err on the side of safety (even though it could be that the vast majority of dogs would be fine with grapeseed extract, we just do not know)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ellen,</p>
<p>I was trying to make the point that each antioxidant needed to be considered, and all its effects, in the context of a given dog within a specific treatment plan.  I was not actually trying to make a harm versus good statement&#8230;</p>
<p>Just a quick note on the grapeseed extract.  Yes, good stuff upon initial exam, but I cannot recommend them to everyone, as a precaution.  Do a Google search on grape and raisin toxicity in dogs and you will see why.  Since we don&#8217;t know what the culprit is in the grape, and the rare death does occur, I have to err on the side of safety (even though it could be that the vast majority of dogs would be fine with grapeseed extract, we just do not know)</p>
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		<title>By: Ellen Miles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ellen Miles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dr. Dressler,

I just found your blog.  Interesting notes.  I agree, some antioxidants and (many forms of minerals) cause more harm than good.  It&#039;s recently been found that most the minerals in most supplements actually crystalize in the small intesting, throw off lots o&#039; FR&#039;s, using any antioxidant in site and causing more harm than good.  Studies conducted by Alexander Rabovsky, PhD and Jeremy Ivie conducted initial research with Andrei Komarow, MD., PhD of George Washington U and Garry Buettner, PhD, professor of free radical science at the University of Iowa tested and verified the research.  

A while back, I was searching for the effect of grapeseed extract on cancer.  Among other things, its a strong antioxidant, (a flavanoid).  Somewhere, tho I can&#039;t find it again, I saw where in some types of cancers, it encapsulated the cells and destroyed them...  I believe it&#039;s also been effective in some forms of colon cancer.  

I give my dog grapeseed extract for her allergies and after about 8 months, she no longer has allergic reactions (to environment and cats).  Still feed her a grain free diet, but that&#039;s not jjust because of allergies.  She&#039;s doing great.

Look forward to hearing more about ca and dogs.  Haven&#039;t checked your whole blog but have you done research on the link between common chemicals and ca?

Thanks
Ellen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dr. Dressler,</p>
<p>I just found your blog.  Interesting notes.  I agree, some antioxidants and (many forms of minerals) cause more harm than good.  It&#8217;s recently been found that most the minerals in most supplements actually crystalize in the small intesting, throw off lots o&#8217; FR&#8217;s, using any antioxidant in site and causing more harm than good.  Studies conducted by Alexander Rabovsky, PhD and Jeremy Ivie conducted initial research with Andrei Komarow, MD., PhD of George Washington U and Garry Buettner, PhD, professor of free radical science at the University of Iowa tested and verified the research.  </p>
<p>A while back, I was searching for the effect of grapeseed extract on cancer.  Among other things, its a strong antioxidant, (a flavanoid).  Somewhere, tho I can&#8217;t find it again, I saw where in some types of cancers, it encapsulated the cells and destroyed them&#8230;  I believe it&#8217;s also been effective in some forms of colon cancer.  </p>
<p>I give my dog grapeseed extract for her allergies and after about 8 months, she no longer has allergic reactions (to environment and cats).  Still feed her a grain free diet, but that&#8217;s not jjust because of allergies.  She&#8217;s doing great.</p>
<p>Look forward to hearing more about ca and dogs.  Haven&#8217;t checked your whole blog but have you done research on the link between common chemicals and ca?</p>
<p>Thanks<br />
Ellen</p>
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		<title>By: Lori Michaelson</title>
		<link>http://www.dogcancerblog.com/dog-cancer-and-antioxidantstime-to-clear-up-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-118</link>
		<dc:creator>Lori Michaelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 21:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Off course I meant to say antioxidants not antibiotics!!!  LOL

Lori</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off course I meant to say antioxidants not antibiotics!!!  LOL</p>
<p>Lori</p>
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		<title>By: Lori Michaelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lori Michaelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 21:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wanted to make a general comment about antibiotics which, I believe, goes along with what you said about antibiotics.  

For the longest time The Food and Drug Administration said that Vitamin E and Vitamin C said that they were the most potent antibiotics to prevent cancer, to directly help this or that condition or this or that organ etc.  And then it was just last year where they had to admit that \&quot;they\&quot; really had no proof or basis for suggesting what they did 30 or 40 years ago.  

You know how folks are always saying \&quot;They suggest this\&quot; or They suggest that.\&quot;  And whom \&quot;THEY\&quot; are is really an enigma.

Okay, now what I really wanted to say.  I\&#039;m sure that there are many, many people who take Vitamin E daily (like myself and my husband) but when you purchase it over the counter from Costco or Wal-Mart, etc.... you are really only getting the \&quot;synthetic form\&quot; of it and not the REAL or most natural Vitamin E.  

Not that there is\&#039;nt ANY benefits to buying the over the counter type but if you want the real thing -- order it in it\&#039;s true form which is Alpha Tocopherol.  This natural form is more active and better absorbed.  :-)

Lori</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to make a general comment about antibiotics which, I believe, goes along with what you said about antibiotics.  </p>
<p>For the longest time The Food and Drug Administration said that Vitamin E and Vitamin C said that they were the most potent antibiotics to prevent cancer, to directly help this or that condition or this or that organ etc.  And then it was just last year where they had to admit that \&quot;they\&quot; really had no proof or basis for suggesting what they did 30 or 40 years ago.  </p>
<p>You know how folks are always saying \&quot;They suggest this\&quot; or They suggest that.\&quot;  And whom \&quot;THEY\&quot; are is really an enigma.</p>
<p>Okay, now what I really wanted to say.  I\&#8217;m sure that there are many, many people who take Vitamin E daily (like myself and my husband) but when you purchase it over the counter from Costco or Wal-Mart, etc&#8230;. you are really only getting the \&quot;synthetic form\&quot; of it and not the REAL or most natural Vitamin E.  </p>
<p>Not that there is\&#8217;nt ANY benefits to buying the over the counter type but if you want the real thing &#8212; order it in it\&#8217;s true form which is Alpha Tocopherol.  This natural form is more active and better absorbed.  <img src='http://www.dogcancerblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Lori</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Dressler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Dressler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 09:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dawn,
sorry to hear the chemo is making your girl feel junky.  You will find split camps on when to start melatonin.  Honestly, my feeling is to go ahead and give it when you want it (like now). I am sure I will create an uproar but there ya go.  The statistics post amputation with osteosarc are garbage.  So we have little to lose and a lot to gain.
No harm in starting the Transer Factor before K-9 Immunity, but they are designed to be used together.  There is a wee immune stimulating affect likely with TF but this effect minimal in my opinion by itself.
It is difficult to overdo the omega 3 supplements.  Just start slowly and work your way up (see the blog on omega fatty acids).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dawn,<br />
sorry to hear the chemo is making your girl feel junky.  You will find split camps on when to start melatonin.  Honestly, my feeling is to go ahead and give it when you want it (like now). I am sure I will create an uproar but there ya go.  The statistics post amputation with osteosarc are garbage.  So we have little to lose and a lot to gain.<br />
No harm in starting the Transer Factor before K-9 Immunity, but they are designed to be used together.  There is a wee immune stimulating affect likely with TF but this effect minimal in my opinion by itself.<br />
It is difficult to overdo the omega 3 supplements.  Just start slowly and work your way up (see the blog on omega fatty acids).</p>
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		<title>By: Lilly F</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lilly F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 23:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding the antioxidant vitamin C--oral versus intravenous.

Candy has Mycosis Fungoides, or Cutaneous T cell lymphoma. for which she received some IV vitramin C  (2 rounds--about 3-4 days each time) since June  It did wonders for her coat  and skin.  However, I have stopped the oral vitamin C because what I read says that in low doses it is taken up by the cancer cells, promoting cancer. once  once has cancer .  As an IV, it  supposedly kills the cancer (orthomolecxular.org site) . Do you agree with this or is it the answer that nobody really knows yet?

Lilly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the antioxidant vitamin C&#8211;oral versus intravenous.</p>
<p>Candy has Mycosis Fungoides, or Cutaneous T cell lymphoma. for which she received some IV vitramin C  (2 rounds&#8211;about 3-4 days each time) since June  It did wonders for her coat  and skin.  However, I have stopped the oral vitamin C because what I read says that in low doses it is taken up by the cancer cells, promoting cancer. once  once has cancer .  As an IV, it  supposedly kills the cancer (orthomolecxular.org site) . Do you agree with this or is it the answer that nobody really knows yet?</p>
<p>Lilly</p>
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		<title>By: Lilly F</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lilly F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 21:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My dog has Cutaneous T cell lymphoma and some of the information I have read is different for lymphoma than it is for lets say an organ cancer.  I have read for example that immune stimulating supplements should not be given--isn&#039;t that just about everything out there--since the immune system is supposed to fight disease--why WOULDN&#039;T you stimulate it?

Also, I read that melatonin should not be used with &quot;lymphoproliferative&quot; cancer.  Again,. My Candy is taking melatonin for  Atypical Cushings so maybe I need to consider the lesser of the evils and stop it. 

I don&#039;t know if the advice I read for cancer applies to lymphoma.  I hope that I am not doing my poor dog in with my ignorance :-(

I am giving her curcumin, l arginine, Reconciling tablets, fish oil, selenium , artemisinin, Avemar among other things but don&#039;t know if these might be contraindicated.  Is this way too much information--I have a million questions.
This website is my new best pal!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My dog has Cutaneous T cell lymphoma and some of the information I have read is different for lymphoma than it is for lets say an organ cancer.  I have read for example that immune stimulating supplements should not be given&#8211;isn&#8217;t that just about everything out there&#8211;since the immune system is supposed to fight disease&#8211;why WOULDN&#8217;T you stimulate it?</p>
<p>Also, I read that melatonin should not be used with &#8220;lymphoproliferative&#8221; cancer.  Again,. My Candy is taking melatonin for  Atypical Cushings so maybe I need to consider the lesser of the evils and stop it. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if the advice I read for cancer applies to lymphoma.  I hope that I am not doing my poor dog in with my ignorance <img src='http://www.dogcancerblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I am giving her curcumin, l arginine, Reconciling tablets, fish oil, selenium , artemisinin, Avemar among other things but don&#8217;t know if these might be contraindicated.  Is this way too much information&#8211;I have a million questions.<br />
This website is my new best pal!</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 13:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello! I have ordered K9  Immunity. I know I had talked to you about my thoughts on waiting 2 days after chemo to start her melatonin again ..but Gabby had her chemo yesterday and we were up all night with her. So I am concerned and wanted to verify that it is safe to give her her melatonin tonight instead of tomorrow. I am concerned on the toll the chemo is taking on her her body. 
Also,  I already recieved the K9 transfer factor so should I wait for the K9 Immunity to use? I also ordered the K9 omega although her food has .7% of Omega 3 nd 1.5% of Omega 6. Is the K9 Omega still safe to adminster?
Thanks again!
-Dawn &amp; Gabby</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello! I have ordered K9  Immunity. I know I had talked to you about my thoughts on waiting 2 days after chemo to start her melatonin again ..but Gabby had her chemo yesterday and we were up all night with her. So I am concerned and wanted to verify that it is safe to give her her melatonin tonight instead of tomorrow. I am concerned on the toll the chemo is taking on her her body.<br />
Also,  I already recieved the K9 transfer factor so should I wait for the K9 Immunity to use? I also ordered the K9 omega although her food has .7% of Omega 3 nd 1.5% of Omega 6. Is the K9 Omega still safe to adminster?<br />
Thanks again!<br />
-Dawn &amp; Gabby</p>
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